tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post7807298507699820170..comments2024-01-08T18:25:51.974+00:00Comments on Kraut's English phonetic blog: count wordsKrauthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-47394936792807827242013-10-31T21:23:52.856+00:002013-10-31T21:23:52.856+00:00You can help him with some kind of explanation (wh...You can help him with some kind of explanation (whether adhoc or not), or some mnemonic. In words with 'countV-' , the is historically long. In 'country', is short. In the history of English, you can see many examples where vowels got lightened before clusters.<br /><br />wide ~ width<br />deep ~ depth<br />child ~ children<br />break ~ breakfast<br />wise ~ wisdom<br />boil ~ ebullient<br /><br />To this list, you can just add another "count ~ country".<br /><br />There is a great book that deals with these kind of phenomena. Check Charles-James Bailey and Karl Maroldt's "Grundzuge der Englischen phonetelogie Allgemeine systametik". The above set of examples came from page 102 of that book. Check Charles-James Bailey's "English Phonetic Transcription" as well.<br /><br />DWhitecloudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-78639437848220168882013-09-03T11:58:06.130+01:002013-09-03T11:58:06.130+01:00Because of EFL mistakes? Off curse!Because of EFL mistakes? Off curse!Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-60978173817061598882013-09-03T11:51:29.142+01:002013-09-03T11:51:29.142+01:00I often feel tempted to curse in my course!I often feel tempted to curse in my course!Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-60882004790031660452013-09-03T11:48:31.755+01:002013-09-03T11:48:31.755+01:00Next lesson: the difference between course and cur...Next lesson: the difference between course and curse…Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-92194722603113823852013-09-03T10:39:10.325+01:002013-09-03T10:39:10.325+01:00Thanks, Limey, for your competent recommendation. ...Thanks, Limey, for your competent recommendation. I shall give it a try in my next course and have <i>sal volatile</i> ready for the sensitive ladies. Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-2534134672864064942013-09-02T17:11:49.861+01:002013-09-02T17:11:49.861+01:00I can recommend a surefire way of getting a studen...I can recommend a surefire way of getting a student never to forget not to say<br /> /kaʊnt/ as the first syllable of that word which is to say that you can't say the correct <br />syllable for them because it would be too improper to utter in polite society since it <br />constitutes currently the single most obscene word in the English language.Limeyhttp://yek.me.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-68880068980548319372013-08-29T13:55:07.226+01:002013-08-29T13:55:07.226+01:00Ah, poor dears! That would be just too ˈnɑːstiAh, poor dears! That would be just too ˈnɑːstiJohn Maidmenthttp://blogjam.namenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-35572599687606603892013-08-29T10:56:47.726+01:002013-08-29T10:56:47.726+01:00When they've mastered country vs county, go an...When they've mastered country vs county, go and confuse them with pastry vs pasty.Phillip Mindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801818752833289089noreply@blogger.com