tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post1490415802962576502..comments2024-01-08T18:25:51.974+00:00Comments on Kraut's English phonetic blog: rant alertKrauthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-19575412026607175232013-05-17T19:30:47.284+01:002013-05-17T19:30:47.284+01:00The claim was challenged earlier, of course, e.g. ...The claim was challenged earlier, of course, e.g. by Scovel in 1988. There's an excellent study by Theo Bongaerts et al. (1997): "Age and ultimate attainment in the pronunciation of a foreign language", <i>Studies in Second Language Acquisition</i> 19: 447-465, which suggests that it is possible for late starters to acquire a native-like pronunciation. Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-81410679493204634712013-05-14T23:15:30.120+01:002013-05-14T23:15:30.120+01:00I sympathise with you, Petr, but for a different r...I sympathise with you, Petr, but for a different reason, especially now your original difficulty has been solved (the online ref. is to the conference proceedings in a journal issue, Language Teaching, that you might find in your university library, or better still download at once if your university has negotiated access for you).<br /><br />The topic quoted refers to language acquisition, not just accent, and is usually attributed to Lenneberg 1967 (Biological Foundations of Language), and beyond him Chomsky and Jacobson. To have it finally challenged after 40 years is remarkable, but in an unpublished plenary lecture would be odd. So use your professorial rights to get your free copy and see what this epoch breaking research or argument is. Sidney Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01138711082469220983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-92101079344473106082013-05-14T14:25:14.017+01:002013-05-14T14:25:14.017+01:00Thanks for pointing it out to me. But still ... I ...Thanks for pointing it out to me. But still ... I dislike references to unpublished conference talks and unstable sources, e.g. links to online sources.Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-19393463326118521772013-05-14T11:41:32.486+01:002013-05-14T11:41:32.486+01:00It was helpful enough to me: Revised version of a ...It was helpful enough to me: <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/S026144481200050X" rel="nofollow">Revised version of a plenary address given at the 2011 Second Language Research Forum, University of Iowa, October 2011.</a><br />Published online: 11 February 2013. After the printing of the book, I assume.Carsten Schultzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16040095694356968541noreply@blogger.com