tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post7064526178455507113..comments2024-01-08T18:25:51.974+00:00Comments on Kraut's English phonetic blog: Halfway through the KnightKrauthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-69264160501086701302012-06-06T09:23:54.712+01:002012-06-06T09:23:54.712+01:00Some care about colon length, others don't.Some care about colon length, others don't.Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-81352631212017764802012-06-06T07:45:47.407+01:002012-06-06T07:45:47.407+01:00laɪmi: Not YOU! You will most definitely not be at...laɪmi: Not YOU! You will most definitely not be at a loss!Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-6993594451457872732012-06-06T07:44:27.886+01:002012-06-06T07:44:27.886+01:00I agree with both R-A Knight and JWL on not markin...I agree with both R-A Knight and JWL on not marking length of vowels iff [sic] we restrict this practice to NSs of English who know if a vowel is long or short. But what about NNSs (and, maybe, even the odd NS as well) who are faced with transcriptions like /kraɪsiz/, /beɪsiz/ or /sItiz/. I think quite a few will be rather at a loss.Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932831673529849848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-60037222846246792622012-06-05T22:50:18.465+01:002012-06-05T22:50:18.465+01:00`kraɪˌsiz `beɪˌsiz `sɪtiz`kraɪˌsiz `beɪˌsiz `sɪtizlaɪmihttp://yek.me.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2382369381372118960.post-89594594323933105052012-06-05T17:45:40.057+01:002012-06-05T17:45:40.057+01:00I shd like to say that I completely agree with Dr ...I shd like to say that I completely agree with Dr Knight's treatment of redundant colon length marks which I consider a waste of time and space in phonemic transcriptions for current mainstream General British etc pronunciation. She apparently needs to make it clear that weak /i/ occurs at the ends of words (and morphemes) as for example in 'soberly' /`səʊbəli/ which may be compared with, to choose a rather topical word, 'jubilee' /`ʤubəˌli/ (also commonly pronounced /ʤubə`li/) where stress<br />marks may be used if it's felt necessary to clarify the choice of strong versus weak /i/.JWLhttp://yek.me.uknoreply@blogger.com